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Pic of the Week - March 10, 2006

Posted by Glenn Mills on Mar 10, 2006 09:01AM (4,159 views)
This photo was taken during the American Short-Course Championships in Austin, Texas, last weekend.

In one evening heat of the 100 breaststroke, almost all eight swimmers hit the wall at the same time. You can see the positions of the heads and hands, but you can get a better feeling for the energy and flow by watching the video clip that goes along with it.

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Responses

Responded Mar 10, 2006 11:16AM

Cool picture... and even cooler video. It does amaze me how all of their first movement is throwing back their head.

Someone needs the breaststrokes turns and pull-outs DVD!!!
Responded Mar 10, 2006 11:26AM

I knew you'd see that... I just loved the way all the hands went at the same time. But YES... absolutely, they all need to learn the DAVE TURN! Let's make it easy on them... if they see this... here's the link:

Go Swim Breaststroke Turns & Pullouts with Dave Denniston
Responded Mar 10, 2006 12:59PM

I always speak of the head as an 10 pound throw weight. And it really works best throwing it backwards as there is more movement. The rest of the body responds to throwing the head back.

My swimmers would be lower in the water though! And they would be more on their side at this moment, because I have them touch the walls with one hand lower than the other!

And they would never grab the wall touch pad. Always touch lower, it will lead to a faster turn.
Responded Mar 10, 2006 02:14PM

Hey Wayne... are you saying not to grab the pad with which hand? All of these swimmers are turning to the left, so you're saying not to touch the top with the left hand, but positioning the right hand, as they're all doing, on top of the pad is OK... right?
Responded Mar 10, 2006 03:29PM

I would say any time you grab a pad, you are losing time.

It seems most breaststrokers turn to the left (I do) so the right hand touches at the same time as the left, but at or just below the waters surface. The right hand touches about 8 inches lower and immediately pulls back. Rules are made to push.

But as John Moffett used to tell me, those walls are on fire, don't burn your hands. His breast to back and twist "Stanford" turn still is amoung the fastest I have seen.
Responded Mar 10, 2006 03:53PM

First, using the wall for leverage is absolutely the fastest thing you can do, and shouldn't be considered "grabbing". If you've got the ledge, use it. In international, or flat wall races, I agree with what you're saying... in short course races, I'd bet just about EVERY swimmer is going to use the ledge... and for good reason, the leverage helps you spin FASTER.

Second, I turned next to John in COUNTLESS races, and our turns were very comperable... Dave's turns, on the other hand, are FAR superior to anything I've been exposed to, and have since changed how I turn and how I teach the turn. It just makes SO much more sense. While John was one of the greatest breaststrokers ever, the things we did WAY back then, have been reinvented, and moved forward... just like the rest of the stroke. Dave's turns simply are better. :)
Responded Mar 12, 2006 05:01AM

Wow. Sweet video
Responded Mar 15, 2006 04:24PM

Kurt Grote used to work on turn drills in the middle of the pool. Starting the turn with a "crunch", pulling his legs up so fast, that the momentum would roll his head and shoulders back very quickly and in a really tight ball. Barrowman used his lead arm to make a downward pull as he kicked his legs around. He felt that this would spin him just a tenth of a second faster, which he felt that he needed because of his size.

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