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What can you point out on this image of a freestyle swimmer?
Another shot for reference.
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Well...the first picture shows a very nice recovery, low head position and good balance. In the second picture I think the head is to high, the swimmer looks unbalanced and the hand seems to me that will cross the midline. |
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Not quite what I was going for... and also... in the first pic, she's swimming slow, and in the 2nd pic, she's swimming fast. Also, not quite sure how you can project into the future of the 2nd pic to determine she is going to cross the centerline... the hand hasn't even entered the water yet. |
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I would have never guessed that it is the same swimmer. |
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...to me that picture shows the problem with current thinking that most of the people do when they see somebody swimming in competition and then use his/her technique as basis of their own technique and don´t take in consideration the fact that technique is much different in full speed than in recovery speeds... You know, now everybody is raving about str8 arm recovery of S. Nystrand but then again nobody knows how he swims in practices... just my 2 cents, inspired by those pictures... not sure if that was what you´ve looking for... |
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Good stuff Samuli. Actually, what I initially loved about the 1st picture is that the swimmers is actually breathing. The 2nd shot was to show the logo on the side of the cap. In the first picture, you can see how it's turned, and how low her head is. Yes, as she goes faster, her stroke changes, and she's ultra powerful. She is a very strong freestyle sprinter, D1 college level, and very fast. JUST missed the cutoff for the National Championships. Certainly a top notch swimmer. |
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What I have learned from others about freestyle technique is her stroke, to me, looks very relaxed and natural. Although she is on easy street in the first pic it looks like her elbow is within her scapular plane which means no impingement on the shoulder, a very relaxed recovery. The second picture her hand looks to me from her fingertips that it is going in without pitch in or out. The hand then would extend forward, probably with no extraneous sculling into her catch. Thats of course assuming I can see into the future, which I can't. Looking at some swimmers out there (cough, ahem, Phelps) there is a trade off between visible balance and power/speed in their freestyle. It is a trade off some are willing and able to make (cough, world record). |
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..and then there is trade off between having shoulder problems or not having shoulder problems... |
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First picture: Hand is kind of tense, head is fine, arm is not: it give the impression of sweeping
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I don't know but I haven't heard any Phelps quotes about shoulder issues especially for a man that puts in the the kind of yards he does...Furlong I am not seeing the tension. I can see some separation between the fingers and I don't know of anyone who holds tension in their hands with space between the digits. Not sure I am understanding exactly flexed position straight forward? Do mean finishing her stroke out the back and bringing the hand straight forward? This is how I saw shown the recovery. Stand up and bring your hand directly up your side, you can only bring your hand up so far. Your range of motion stops you and you must force your hand forward, you can feel resistance in your shoulder muscles. Allowing your hand to come out a bit wider allows for a more natural shoulder motion and less effort to bring the hand forward (there should be almost no effort at all using the weight of your hand and body roll to finish your recovery). Coming from the minds of Nelms and Quick. I do agree wth the head position, but for the kick no one has a outboard motor for legs so you will see some splashing from the feet. Whos greg? |
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...Phelps had some shoulder issues some years back, I remember reading article about his physiotherapy, not long a thing, 3-6 weeks and then back to normal training. Article quoted Bob Bowman also... About head position, on race speeds head position is more upwards, just watch Marleen Veldhuis swim full speed... |
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*This is how I was shown* And this is my native tongue... Samuli, is it that the head is higher or is the whole body higher in the water at race speeds? |
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