Bodysuits... have at it. :)

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Posted Jun 16, 2008 02:14PM

Here's something for you to read and digest. Enjoy.

http://coachsci.sdsu.edu/swimming/bodysuit...

Posted Jun 16, 2008 04:31PM

Didn't you do an article on TYR bodysuits awhile back?

To me the only way to solve this would be to get 40-60 swimmers, split them in half (suited/non), then have them race a set of 50's. Compare the difference between swimmers and their PB's.

That would provide a large enough samples for a decent study.

Posted Jun 18, 2008 12:14AM

Well, my daughter doesn't have one of the new ones, but she does have an aquapel short john and body (ebay really cheap). It makes a difference for her (and other smaller ones). She is thin enough that 79 degrees is freezing. The full suit keeps her warm enough to not freeze in her 400s. (similar to the slimming effect for masters).

We do have a lot of senior swimmers wearing the suits and they do go faster with them on, but they go faster in meets than practice anyway and they have been getting consistently faster over the last few years. As Glenn said in another post - today's world record is tomorrow's 12 and under cut. So what is the suit and what is them? Then we had Andy Taylor take 2nd in the 200 fly at the swimvitatonal in a regular suit when the rest of them wore the new ones.

So Tyler is right. To really test them you will need a large sample and to have them swim rested with and without the suits several times. Even then you still have the question - is it the suit or that they think the suit will do it?

Posted Jun 18, 2008 05:26AM

Secondly...I'd also like to see them banned for age-group swimmers as I feel it adversely affects qualifying times and puts an additional entrance barrier to a sport with already too few participants. Italy, Swim BC, and a few US states have started doing this and I hope this continues. Senior/Open meets, masters swimming...let them have their suits. For children it should be about the swimming.

Posted Jun 18, 2008 02:03PM

I have heard that sentiment since the first ones came out. In fact I know a shop that wouldn't sell the original fastskins to age groupers without their coach's permission (owned by a retired coach). It made for a couple of really upset parents at one meet. If you look at the sizes being made now, I would say that the companies are not aiming at age group swimming. However, I have seen a couple of younger ones with fastskin "parachutes".

You have to remember, also, that part of this is fashion. The thing that will help is letting the kids see that the elite folks don't always wear those suits. We have an advantage there as our practice groups overlap enough that the younger ones see our national group swimmers fairly often, and most of the time they are in poly training suits. So they can were the same suit as whichever one is their favorite today, and it is still appropriate. In fact, they even get to see them compete in training suits when they swim in the age group meets we host.

One thing that could help this situation is if they made the regular suits in knee length and full body versions. As I said earlier, my daughter (transitional group between age group and seniors) is wearing the longer ones because they are warmer and they reduce the shaving requirement. If there was a durafast body suit, she would probably wear that most of the time. It is easier with boys as they make jammers in all types.

Sorry about the rambling, but for some reason it seems hard to be concise about this. So my question for you is what is actually banned? We just came back from Hyak in BC and there were a lot of fastskins, aquapells and aquashifts up there. There weren't many full body ones, but there were plenty of the others.

Posted Jun 18, 2008 06:11PM

Here's the old article:

http://www.goswim.tv/entries/2765/new-suit...

Also, I've been discussing some of this with my masters friends, and we're all in agreement that the body suits also do a great job of smoothing off and tightening up some loose edges that have developed over time.

The scientists can write all they want to, personally... and like I said after my 400 IM at masters nationals... I'm never swimming an important race again in anything other than a full-body. Unless, of course, they come out with the motorized jammer. THEN I'll start thinking of reducing the amount of fabric I have covering my body. :)

Posted Jun 18, 2008 07:40PM

i haven't tried out a body suit yet but in a championship in march i wore a nsa legskin and i made some decent improvements.also i didn't taper for this meet since my zone meet was the next saturday

Posted Jun 19, 2008 01:44AM

if you want a relatively cheap fastskin i suggest nsa swimwear which can be found on ebay if you search nsa swimwear . there are many suits but most are legskins and cost about $30 (US)

Posted Jun 19, 2008 04:59PM

another thing to think about is that there is no science can measure somebody's potential



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